6 Reasons (Besides The Obvious Ones) Why Timeless Is Awesome

So for those of you who don’t know (and quite possibly) have been living under a rock, Timeless is this super cool time travel show that got un-canceled because the fans loves it so much!

Me included!

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Besides the great premise which is both fun and somewhat educational, we got interesting characters (both in the “good” and “bad” guy camps) and enough of a mystery with first Flynn and then Rittenhouse to keep the suspense up. Plus every week a new set of era-appropriate costumes!

While those bits are all great, part of why I love this show is all the small details that just make you either laugh, go ‘awww’ or ‘hum, I wonder how that might affect the timeline’.  There is also the whole time travel bit that I’m still not hundred 100% about how it works, but that makes me want to watch more to understand things better.

Awesome thing 1 – Their “Fake” Identities 

From Lucy’s “This is Doctor Dre and I’m Nurse Jackie, we’re from General Hospital” to “Juliet Shakes-man” to “I’m Dr. Quin and I’m a medicine woman” or even her using their normal names and being all “You never heard of Wyatt and Lucy?” when talking to Bonnie & Clyde, whenever Lucy is picking their names it’s sure to be something that makes you crack up a little (at least I do).

The rest of the gang have clearly picked up on this too, Wyatt’s fake FIB badge names him as Agent Mulder and one of Rufus’s driver’s licences says Wesley Snipes and he calls himself Denzel Washington and Kanye (which elicits the hilarious response ‘whoever heard of a name like Kanye, sounds made up to me‘).

These are just some extra little fun touches but they add so much. It’s a ‘hey, this is serious but we’re still normal people’ vibe to the show. And let’s be honest, it would be really easy to just use TV and movie characters (and actor names) when pretending to be someone else in the past. It’s fun, easy to remember and takes the edge off the seriousness of the situation a little.

The “Ma’am” Thing

So Wyatt and Lucy’s first meeting goes something like

Lucy: Are you asleep?

Wyatt: No, ma’am.

Lucy: Oh, okay…Do you know why we’re here?

Wyatt: No idea, ma’am.

Lucy: You know, we’re pretty much the same age, you can just stop calling me ma’am.

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So yeah, I think this was pretty much when the shipping for these two began (for me at least). But it could have been in the Lifeboat (the name of the time machine) when he once again calls her “Ma’am” and she tells him not to.

Then we have him calling her ‘ma’am’ after helping her by talking about finding a reason to fight and after she thanks him he says “Sure thing, ma’am” and they’re looking at each other all adorably. Now the ma’am has gone from something he did to annoy her to something else.

The next ma’am moment is when he tells her he’s stealing the lifeboat and going to get his wife back. Which is an all-around heartbreaking scene, made even more so by the conversation Lucy has with Jiya about it later (“Wyatt told me.”), but anyways. He calls her ma’am and by this point it just makes you go ‘aaahww so cute’. At least I did.

So with Wyatt stealing the time machine and all he gets shipped off to a black site and Lucy and Rufus get stuck with another soldier. A buddy of Wyatt’s actually. Only when Fake!Wyatt goes all ‘ma’am’ on Lucy, she’s like “Lucy is fine” and you can just see it’s totally making her think about Wyatt.

Last one his the funniest one, when yet another soldier) – this one, one of the bad guys – calls her ma’am, she’s all “Don’t you ma’am me!”efbfecc9b968dea4adca4fc5f15282a4

Okay, I’m not sure if I explained that but just go watch the show and listen for the ma’ams and you’ll see how the ma’am thing is just a nice little touch that adds a lot.

The Gang Feels

So starting out neither Lucy, Rufus or Wyatt know each other. We already got the (sort of) meet-cute between Wyatt / Lucy and the time travel reveal (Rufus already knew about it since he’s working on the project.)

The gang goes on their very first mission and by the end of it they’ve been arrested, escaped from prison, stopped a bomb from going off and grounded an airship by pretending to be terrorists, watched a woman die in front of them. Pretty intense first few hours of knowing each other. And by the end of it (and through the following episodes), they kind of bond.

Trouble is Lucy has some secret conversations with the bad guy and Rufus is recording them for the other bad guys. Which is really sucky for Wyatt who is all “I don’t trust either one of you”. But it makes them saving, helping and re-learning to trust each other even more awesome.

The banter about stealing cars and who is better at hotwiring them is fun. Chocodiles. Lucy being kidnapped and the guys going to save her (and ending up needing to be saved by her) is so sweet. Wyatt asking Rufus to go with him to save his wife in the past, him telling Lucy because he trusts her and just the all-around team feels throughout.

29e59a734f535590663a043a4dd06cfd.jpgPoint is, the team is great especially when they’re saving each other or just completing the mission or do something funny or awkward or future-related together. They’re like the Scooby Gang (only grown up and with time travel instead of vampires) or at least giving me similar feels. Which is great because Buffy was the first TV-show I fell in love with.

Lyatt (Lucy / Wyatt)

If you read my post about my favorite love stories, you know I’m a big fan of action/ adventure with a romantic sub-plot. Timeless has that in both Lucy / Wyatt and Rufus / Jiya, even though my shipper heart beats extra strong for Lyatt because of the potential for angst with them. You know with the whole he has a dead wife that could possibly come back (because of drama, probably right when Lucy / Wyatt get together) to life/ never have died.

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Things to come…

Also, I like that there hasn’t been a huge focus on the possible Lyatt romance, instead letting season 1 kind of lay the groundwork for things to come. Sure, we did get that  Bonnie & Clyde ep where they were pretending to be a couple which was kind of fun (and awkward). But what really makes me ship these are the small things like Wyatt helping Lucy with her seatbelt in the Lifeboat, how they just look at each other and help each other deal with the trauma of being time travelers (and other stuff). I love organic relationships a lot more than the ‘omg we met two minutes ago, let’s get married’ ones and I feel like Lucy and Wyatt got something that’s grown pretty naturally.

Number 5 &6 on the awesome list are Amy + Changed Timeline (Need More Of It)

So Lucy’s sister Amy going missing (or well being erased from history) and Lucy trying to get her back is just a really cool touch. Plus even though we didn’t get to see much of them together, I really liked what we got from the sisters, it was sweet and nice.

And while I really hope Lucy gets her sister back I love that they did change things big time for Lucy in the Pilot and kind of wished more things they did in the past would alter the future/ present somehow during the season. Like them actually coming back to a different world because the screwed up somehow. I get that there was so much going on in season 1, they didn’t have time for that, but part of why time travel timeless season 2is so interesting is the possible ways the world could change. Is it a butterfly effect (one small thing become a huge one) or more of a fate one (smaller changes will correct themselves) and even though the show has touched on fate/destiny / free will, I’d love to get more of it.

In fact, I want a lot more time machine stuff and questions answered in general.

Like, it would be good to know just how it would work if one of the team members accidentally erased themselves in a Grandfather paradox kind of way. Like how Flynn suggested Lucy might not exist after he took out Rittenhouse. Would they come back and just not have ever existed and kind of slowly begin to fade (Back to the Future style), leaving the rest of the gang to try to go back to fix things? Get arrested because no one remembers them going in the time machine?

Or are the protected in the lifeboat? Amy’s picture stayed safe in there and then remained afterward (could have disappeared once they got back to the present/ out of the Lifeboat) as did Lucy’s memories of her.

Does that mean the time machine exists outside of space-time? Agent Christopher wanting to keep her USB stick of her family in there seems to imply that is how it is. Do Lucy, Wyatt and Rufus exist outside of time too now? Does Jiya with her weird flashback?

Then if Flynn managed to destroy Rittenhouse and they went to a future without Rittenhouse (who paid for the building of the machine) would the Lifeboat remain because once built, it is outside of the time-space stream? Or would the machine blink out from existence since it wouldn’t exist in the new present?

And, a question I’ve been wondering about since day one…

How does the time machine teleport?

HOW?

Is it a Tardis? If so, where is the Doctor?

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How J.K. Rowling changed the world! It’s all about timing.

Since writing about best sellers and what they might and might not have in common I’ve been thinking about the timing of books and how it might influence their success.

But before that, let me just mention that this week 9-16th Febuary (2018) there is a ARC giveaway over on Goodreads for my book BOUND TO YOU.  Check it out and maybe you’ll get a chance to read it before everyone else!

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Let’s go back to the good old 90s. Back before YA was so huge,  e-books hadn’t been invented and this was how we watched TV.

Okay, maybe the TV had been around for a while but still, it was a very dark time. Because Harry Potter had not yet arrived to make our lives awesome. In fact, I still remember back before I started waiting for my Hogwarts acceptance letter (which I’m still waiting for. Clearly someone in admissions screwed up big time.)

Anyway.

Harry Potter came along, beautifully and funnily written with a strong and clear plot. It was the start of the young adult genre, of children and teen lit that was more than it had been.

But, remember how Rowling got rejected a whole bunch of times before someone finally took a chance on her?

(Well maybe you don’t, because who likes to tell that story, but that’s what happened.)

My theory is that Potter came along at the right time, just exactly the right time for that big middle grade / young adult book revolution the world was ready for. One of the people she sent it to realized as much and the rest is history!

Point is, she started it – because Harry Potter an amazing story, it’s well written, plotted and it was just what kids and their parents were hoping for. Waiting for. Dreaming of.

If it hadn’t been as amazing as it is, it wouldn’t have hit so big and remain on the best selling charts over twenty-years later. Maybe it would have slowed down

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the YA revolution and all the books that have come after it would have been different. Maybe some of them wouldn’t even have come out.

So did Rowling start the young adult book revolution or was it the timing? Would some other book that we now don’t even remember have come along and taken her place if she hadn’t finished the first Harry Potter book? Or did she start everything? Did the world change because of her?

A combination of these?

Or am I just a crazed Harry Potter fan, trying to give credit for something totally unrelated to one of my favorite book series?

I don’t know. But I do believe that timing at least had partly to do with Harry Potter is one of the most famous characters in the world. The book is brilliant, but would the world have gone for it a decade earlier? We can’t know, but it’s interesting to speculate.

Moving on to the next YA book that hit big.

Twilight

I’d like to say Twilight is both a response to Harry Potter and a reaction to the scary modern world. Arriving as we all became more aware of general creepy dudes able to pray on young girls via the internet / social media + increases in terror and school shooting Bella’s protectors aren’t just big and strong human guys. One is an unkillable vampire and the other a werewolf. They both want to protect her and would die to do so.

In a world full of a lot of scary shit, I think part of the appeal of Twilight might have been the idea that the magic (which was feared just a generation or two ago) would be used to protect us from the normal ordinary dangers that suddenly felt so much more…well, dangerous. Bella was the perfect reader insert and despite the scary situations Bella ends up in / gets herself into, she is always saved by one of her boyfriends or one of the vamps.

Following on this came books like The Hunger Games and Divergent – where the girl can kick ass on her own and Percy Jackson where the main character is part god. (Also books like Vampire Academy and Mortal Instruments fits in with this genre, where the hero discovers he/she is something more).

Are the reader for these books the same as the ones who loved Twilight? The girls who got tired of reading about Bella being in distress? Or is it the next generation, boys and girls born a few years later?

Adults?

(Fun fact: 70% of YA and teen books are purchased by adults (18-64), so even if some of these are parents, quite a few buyers of YA are reading the books themselves.)

I think sometime during the early 00s YA books became something different. They became normal books with teenage protagonists.

Yeah, for those of us who have mostly read books published post 2005-ish, it’s kind of hard to think back to before that. Maybe we didn’t even read YA books before that (I didn’t since I’d just about become a teenager then) and so it’s hard to understand but for a really long time books for kids and teenagers were more about teaching, scaring, warning, dictating to kids.

Now, this started back during like the early days (we’re talking a few hundred years) when books first and reading start becoming a thing. Books, for both adults and teens alike, were used more as learning tools than for enjoyment. Even books that seemed to be fun and fiction often had some sort of message – such as listen to your parents, girls play with dolls, boys pull pranks and such.

Just like fairytales back in the day, this was just how it was. You had a message and you made sure the book or story made it clear to everyone what it was so it could help them do what you thought was right.

For adult books, this was phased out more and more (even if some people still write with a very clear message in mind, be it about the evils of communism, the greatness of faith or to make us aware of increasing social classes) but for kids and teen books, that teaching tone stayed for a long time.

Just ask your parents, or check out your grandma’s attic and read some of those books. Maybe you’ve read Narnia or seen the movie? There is some very clear Chosen One, Judas, Son of God symbolism going on there. Or Tom Sawyer? Or Robinson Cruzo (which was a children’s book to start with). There is often some moral or lesson to be learned. Even when there isn’t, the tone for children and young adult books, used to be very different.

But it’s not anymore.

Young adult books are just books with heroes that happen to be teenagers. There are genres (for a long time children’s books were either red/ blue or sorted into a few simple stacks by a few different, often gender-based criteria. Like SF/Fantasy + Cowboys for boys and Horses + High School for girls.)

These days there are YA books in every genre: crime, romance, mystery, horror, fantasy, drama, science fiction, dystopias and HBTQ and more. Any kind you like. The only difference is often a happier ending, less death and violence (maybe excluding the Hunger Games!) and younger characters, compared to adult novels.

So it’s no wonder adults are reading these books (because who doesn’t like a happy ending?) because these days they are just books. Often with really fun/ interesting concepts and way more straightforward than some adult novels.

It’s not just about the age or teaching a lesson. Everyone can suddenly pick one of these books up to read and enjoy it. So it becomes about the idea, the society we live in and yes, the timing. All those things influence the success of a novel.

So Twilight, the Mortal Instruments and The Hunger Game are books for everyone – not just teens. So it’s not just the social group we define as young adults we need to look at to maybe see why timing has been part of why these books have become successes.

Twilight might have partly become such a hit because it gave a sense of protection from the scary world – using what once was scary monsters to do so.

The Hunger Games maybe gave us a reflection of our world, for while we don’t kill our classmates or co-workers, sometimes both school and work feel like a fight. Right? It’s a struggle. Only the best ones get that scholarship, that promotion. In a world of dwindling resources and more competitive work environments, and government and politicians that don’t keep their word, is it no wonder a book like The Hunger Game became a hit? We’re all a bit disillusioned and we watch more reality TV than any other generation…

Following along this vein are all the half vampire, half-god, half-angle books. When we’re competing for everything, it’s comforting to know you got an ace up your sleeve. This also ties in with Twilight ‘the world is scary’. Only in these books the characters know why the world is scary and dark – and are part of fighting it. Divergent combines this with every teen (and adult too) hatred for being labeled, by having the main character be ‘divergent’ and unable to be labeled as one specific thing.

Not quite a young adult we also got the very successful super bestseller Fifty Shades of Gray, which is similar to Twilight (which make sense since it was a Twilight fanfiction) in many ways. Here you have Anna being “protected” by Christian – who might not be a vampire or werewolf – but he does have a boat load of money. And that’s almost as good. Even if the price for being with him comes with kinky sex the heroine isn’t to keen on, she ends up being willing to pay that. For love, sure. But also part of the safety and wealth he offers I imagine (I can’t say for sure as I only read book one of this series.) I’m sure no one says as much in the book or if they did Anna would probably deny it, but for a lot of people reading Christian Grey’s wealth is part of why he can act the way he does and why a woman might let him.

In a lot of ways I think 50 Shades (and many other similar that flooded the market after its success) can be seen as exploration and a sort of modern-day fairy tale? A dark one, for sure, where the princess chooses to be a willing captive.

Or is it a disillusionment – the new fairy tales often feel darker (thinking of the upswing in live action fairytale movies in the early 10s). Maybe we’ve lost our belief in them, or at least original Disney versions? Or maybe this isn’t really dark, maybe this is the new fairy tale? A reflection how we want the good old days but with new twists?

I don’t know.

Maybe all the darker stories from the Hunger Games to Fifty Shades to Maze Runner and even The Fault In Our Stars or Thirteen Reason Why is reflecting, perhaps, a new generations view of the world. A world now full of things we fear; poverty, sickness and terror. A future where things have gone downhill to the point where we let children kill each other on live television?

That’s a depressing thought.

I for one hope this isn’t the case, and I don’t really think it is. Society goes through phases and so does genre popularity. For a while, there was vampires, werewolves, gods. Then there was dystopias and re-makes of fairytales. Are we still in the dystopia phase? I don’t know. What comes next? I don’t know.

But probably something. Maybe the thing that gets the timing right. The thing we’re all hoping for, hungering for, even though we don’t know it. And here timing is key I think. You can write a great book but unless the world is ready for it (or perhaps if they’ve had enough of books like it) it won’t be successful. Or not as successful. And even if you write a book that is slightly above mediocre – a book with a theme or new idea that the world wants or become fascinated with can become the next big thing.

So…

It means, think a little about what you’re writing. Has it been done a thousand times before? If so, how do give it a new twist? Meyer made her vampires sparkle (and she made the “vegetarians”) that was new. Collins had her death matches be televised (believe it or not she wasn’t the first to ever write about kids killing each other as part of a government conspiracy.)

Sometimes all you need is a twist on something old and that makes it totally new. Totally relevant. Because that’s the big thing here. The timing, well, it’s just an extension of relevance.

What are problems that are relevant to you, today? The people around you? If those people are teens – that’s great, but often problems and moods are bigger than just one age group. So be aware of the world around you. The problems and struggles. And see if there is some way to corporate them into your book.

Happy writing!

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All Best Selling Book Series Have This In Common

 

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A while back I read Story Engineering by Larry Brooks and since then I’ve been thinking a lot about best-selling novels. SoI decided to find out what / if, what the best selling book series from the 90s to present day (Jan 2018) have in common. Just because it’s fun and interesting. There might be some ramblings here, it’s basically me just taking you all through the process of my thoughts on the subjects and sharing the what and why behind it.

I started off with this list of best-selling books over on Wiki: Best Sellers.

Went down to book series and changed the settings to first release and picked the ones with the first book in the series published between 1990-present day.

That got me a pretty good list but there were still a few things that needed to be taken into account. Such as origin language, nonfiction, written by multiple authors and such things.

I cut the nonfiction and books first printed in a language than English (there were only a couple).

Wiki has it all sorted into a couple of categories so I’ll go with those too.

More than 100 million copies

Here we end up with

  1. Fifty Shades of Grey (125M)
  2. Diary of a Wimpy Kid (194M)
  3. Twilight (120M)
  4. Robert Langdon (200M)
  5. Harry Potter (510M)
  6. Goosebumps* (350M)

These are in order of most recent publication date, not most sold copies, (those numbers are in the brackets.)

*Here it’s worth noting that while the first 5 series have between 4-12 book, Goosebumps have over 62 books in print. This means that while this is a popular book series, the numbers are somewhat misguiding and therefor it’s in cursive.

Between 50 million and 100 million copies

  1. The Hunger Games trilogy (65M)
  2. A Series of Unfortunate Events (65M)
  3. Jack Reacher (60M)
  4. A Song of Ice and Fire (60M)
  5. Alex Cross (81M)
  6. Magic Tree House series (70M)
  7. The Wheel of Time (80M)

Same thing here with the order (most recent release first). Here we also have the Magic Tree House series which is 56 books compared to the others which are between 3-22 books.

Between 30 million and 50 million copies

  1. Divergent trilogy (35M)
  2. The Inheritance Cycle (33M)
  3. Junie B. Jones (44M)
  4. Harry Bosch (42M)

Here Junie B. Jones stands out with 30 books compared to the rest which have 3, 4 and 15 books in the series respectively.

Between 20 million and 30 million copies

  1. Dork Diaries (25M)
  2. Percy Jackson & the Olympians (20M)
  3. The Southern Vampire Mysteries (20M)
  4. Artemis Fowl (21M)
  5. The Sword of Truth (25M)
  6. Captain Underpants (26M)
  7. Outlander (25M)
  8. Maisy (20M)

Here we have Maisy with 23 books compared to the others that are hoovering around 10 books or so.

Between 15 million and 20 million copies

  1. The No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency (15M)
  2. Bridget Jones (15M)
  3. His Dark Materials (15M)

So not much to say about those, the Ladies’s Detective agency has 9 books but that’s not a upper huge number of books, at least not to merit a note.

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This gives us a master list of 28 books, but if we ignore ones I’m feeling are here mostly because the huge number of books in the series (these are in red), this leaves 24 books.

  1. Fifty Shades of Grey (125M)
  2. Diary of a Wimpy Kid (194M)
  3. Twilight (120M)
  4. Robert Langdon (200M)
  5. Harry Potter (510M)
  6. Goosebumps (350M)
  7. The Hunger Games trilogy (65M)
  8. A Series of Unfortunate Events (65M)
  9. Jack Reacher (60M)
  10. A Song of Ice and Fire (60M)
  11. Alex Cross (81M)
  12. Magic Tree House series (70M)
  13. The Wheel of Time (80M)
  14. Divergent trilogy (35M)
  15. The Inheritance Cycle (33M)
  16. Junie B. Jones (44M)
  17. Harry Bosch (42M)
  18. Dork Diaries (25M)
  19. Percy Jackson & the Olympians (20M)
  20. The Southern Vampire Mysteries (20M)
  21. Artemis Fowl (21M)
  22. The Sword of Truth (25M)
  23. Captain Underpants (26M)
  24. Outlander (25M)
  25. Maisy (20M)
  26. The No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency (15M)
  27. Bridget Jones (15M)
  28. His Dark Materials (15M)

So these 28/24 book series are the ones we might call the best selling book series of the 90s and 00s. Some of the books were published during the 10s such as 50 Shades, part of Twilight and Divergent and some of these series are still ongoing but still, most are 90s and 00s publications. Meaning it normally takes at least a decade to get on this best selling list.

The two I had never heard about when starting this are Dork Diaries and Harry Bosch. The remaining I have heard of. I’ve read about half and watched most of the others in their adapted form (TV/Film).

Let’s see them all in order of most sold books.

  1. Harry Potter (510M) (Book 1 alone has sold 120M copies)
  2. Goosebumps (350M)
  3. Diary of a Wimpy Kid (194M)
  4. Robert Langdon (200M)
  5. Fifty Shades of Grey (125M)
  6. Twilight (120M)
    • Under 100M books sold
  7. Alex Cross (81M)
  8. The Wheel of Time (80M)
  9. Magic Tree House series (70M)
  10. The Hunger Games trilogy (65M)
  11. A Series of Unfortunate Events (65M)
  12. Jack Reacher (60M)
  13. A Song of Ice and Fire (60M)
  14. Junie B. Jones (44M)
  15. Harry Bosch (42M)
  16. Divergent trilogy (35M)
  17. The Inheritance Cycle (33M)
  18. Dork Diaries (25M)
  19. Captain Underpants (26M)
  20. Outlander (25M)
  21. The Sword of Truth (25M)
  22. Artemis Fowl (21M)
  23. Maisy (20M)
  24. Percy Jackson & the Olympians (20M)
  25. The Southern Vampire Mysteries (20M)
  26. The No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency (15M)
  27. Bridget Jones (15M)
  28. His Dark Materials (15M)

Here we can note that for example the ten last on the list put together dosen’t even amount to half the Harry Potter sold! The top three book series totals over 100M books sold together but only the top six have sold over 100M copies and 14 bottom (50%) of the list have sold less than 50M books each.

So just like with wealth (the 8th richest people in the world have more wealth than the 50% poorest) there is a seriously big gap for the really big sellers like Harry Potter, Fifty Shades, Wimpy Kid, Langdon and Twilight that clearly not many ever make the jump to over 100M books sold in a series (much less on one book, like with Rowling’s Philosopher’s Stone which has sold over 100M copies alone).

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So, now comes times for some fun statistics!

How many of these best selling series are:

Middle grade books?

Young adult novels?

Fantasy novels?

Crime/ mystery novels?

Romance?

Let’s check!

Middle Grade: Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Harry Potter, A Series of Unfortunate Events, Dork Diaries, Percy Jackson & the Olympians, Artemis Fowl, Captain Underpants, His Dark Materials.

That makes for a total of 8

Wow!

That’s more than I expected, about 1/3 of the total number of the best sellers.

I’m a little iffy about putting Harry Potter here but since Harry is 11 when the book starts and it is read by a lot of kids I’m figuring it still counts. Also His Dark Materials might also be considered a YA book since it contain some pretty deep stuff. But I think my mother read it to me when I was like 8-9 and I loved it so I’m leaving it here.

Young adult novels: Twilight, The Hunger Games trilogy, Divergent trilogy,

That’s a total of 3.

Huh. I thought the YA category would be more impressive.

Fantasy novels: A Song of Ice and Fire, The Wheel of Time, The Inheritance Cycle, The Sword of Truth

Here we end up with 4 series.

The Inheritance Cycle might also fit into the YA category but I feel it is more fantasy than young adult somehow and that’s why I put it here.

Crime/ Mystery novels; Robert Langdon, Jack Reacher, Harry Bosch, Alex Cross, The No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency,

5 books series here! I kind of expected more from this section too. Don’t know why but I feel like there are a lot of popular crime / mystery novel series out there. A few of the series I cut because they weren’t in English, were mysteries so maybe that’s why?

Romance: Fifty Shades of Grey, The Southern Vampire Mysteries, Outlander, Bridget Jones,

4 here too! If you count Fifty Shades of Grey as a romance…maybe it should be in the Crime section 😛 no, I shouldn’t be mean to one of the best selling book series out there. Clearly something about it made people love it even if I can’t understand it!

The Southern Vampire Mysteries should/ could possibly go in the mystery section but I’ve only read one of those books and from what I remember of it and the TV series True Blood (and it might be more different from the books than I recall, I’m not sure) the love story / personal drama stuff trumped the mystery bit so that’s why I put it in the romance section.

Grouped by my Genre split up + Number of copies sold

  • Middle Grade (8)
  1. Harry Potter (510M)
  2. Diary of a Wimpy Kid (194M)
  3. A Series of Unfortunate Events (65M)
  4. Captain Underpants (26M)
  5. Dork Diaries (25M)
  6. Artemis Fowl (21M)
  7. Percy Jackson & the Olympians (20M)
  8. His Dark Materials (15M)
    • YA (3)
  9. Twilight (120M)
  10. The Hunger Games trilogy (65M)
  11. Divergent trilogy (35M)
    • Fantasy (4)
  12. The Wheel of Time (80M)
  13. A Song of Ice and Fire (60M)
  14. The Inheritance Cycle (33M)
  15. The Sword of Truth (25M)
    • Mystery (5)
  16. Robert Langdon (200M)
  17. Alex Cross (81M)
  18. Jack Reacher (60M)
  19. Harry Bosch (42M)
  20. The No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency (15M)
    •  Romance (4)
  21. Fifty Shades of Grey (125M)
  22. Outlander (25M)
  23. The Southern Vampire Mysteries (20M)
  24. Bridget Jones (15M)

This is some really interesting statistics don’t you think? I mean Children’s Book series beat all the other categories with dubble the number of books. Does that mean kids are bigger readers? Parents want their kids to read and buy them books? Kids are easier to hook on a series and will keep on coming back for more?

Also quite a few of the MG books have male main characters – why?

And why are all three of the young adult books main characters females? And why are two of them involved in love triangles? And two of them set in dystopian worlds?

For the fantasy books, I thought there would be less of those than there ended up on the list. I’m fans of three of them (never really go into the Wheel of Time) and know those three all have dragons in them. Two of the four have pretty clear bad guys while the others are a little bit more grey (I think?). I think all of them have love stories(but the Sword of Truth is the only one where there is a HEA. Kind of.)

In the mystery category we have three police / straight forward-ish detective series and two with guys with mad skills (Langdon and Reacher) ending up solving crimes/ troubles in various locations. This isn’t really my genre – I really enjoy the Reacher books and read some of the early Langdon books though, but can’t say much for the police procedurals.

As for the romance section, well I have read the first book in all of those series. None of them are my favorite romance books, even if Outlander does have it’s cute moments and so does Bridget Jones and so I’m not totally sure why they’re so big.

My suggested explanation is that the romance novels (except Fifty Shades) have been in print for over 15 years and all of them been made into movie/TV adaptions which I believe have helped increase their popularity.

Fifty Shades I can’t explain other than it was the first erotica and kinky book that somehow manged to make it into the mainstream and much like the book it was based on (Twilight) it got really popular because of the ease of which the everyday gal (or guy) could put herself in Anna’s shoes. Because Anna have very little personality, just like Bella!

But let’s go back to the middle grade, young adult and fantasy books. Because those are the genres that I find really interesting. In fact I’m going to compile a list for just those books! I’m also going to add the number of books in each series.

This leaves us with 15 books.

  1. Diary of a Wimpy Kid (194M) – 12 books
  2. Twilight (120M) – 4 books
  3. Harry Potter (510M) – 7 books
  4. The Hunger Games trilogy (65M) – 3 books
  5. A Series of Unfortunate Events (65M) – 13 books
  6. A Song of Ice and Fire (60M) – 5 books (7)
  7. The Wheel of Time (80M) – 15 books
  8. Divergent trilogy (35M) – 3 books
  9. The Inheritance Cycle (33M) – 4 books
  10. Dork Diaries (25M) – 9 books
  11. Percy Jackson & the Olympians (20M) – 5 books
  12. Artemis Fowl (21M) – 8 books
  13. The Sword of Truth (25M) – 12 books
  14. Captain Underpants (26M) – 12 books
  15. His Dark Materials (15M) – 3 books

Now I’ve not actual read Diary of a Wimpy Kid, A Series of Unfortunate Events, Dork Diaries or Captain Underpants. Probably because I’m not one of the intended audience. I have seen some TV adaptions of Unfortunate Events and part of the Wimpy kid movie though. I’ll also admit am I not totally up to snuff on The Wheel of Time or Artemis Fowl either.

I have however read every book in these series more than once

  1. Twilight (120M) – 4 books
  2. Harry Potter (510M) – 7 books
  3. The Inheritance Cycle (33M) – 4 books
  4. Percy Jackson & the Olympians (20M) – 5 books
  5. The Sword of Truth (25M) – 12 books
  6. His Dark Materials (15M) – 3 books

and still think they’re good reads (Twilight can be debated but it does have something that pulls you in and keeps you reading.) So I feel I pretty good about analyzing them at least!

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In Order of Most Sold Books 

Now let’s put them in order of most sold books (I’ve also added the date the first book in the series was published since the number of years the book has been in print is interesting).

  1. (1997) Harry Potter (510M) – 7 books
  2. (2007) Diary of a Wimpy Kid (194M) – 12 books
  3. (2005) Twilight (120M) – 4 books
  4. (1990) The Wheel of Time (80M) – 15 books
  5. (1999) A Series of Unfortunate Events (65M) – 13 books
  6. (2008) The Hunger Games trilogy (65M) – 3 books
  7. (1996) A Song of Ice and Fire (60M) – 5 books (intends to write 7)
  8. (2011) Divergent trilogy (35M) – 3 books
  9. (2002) The Inheritance Cycle (33M) – 4 books
  10. (1997) Captain Underpants (26M) – 12 books
  11. (1998) The Sword of Truth (25M) – 12 books
  12. (2009) Dork Diaries (25M) – 9 books
  13. (2001) Artemis Fowl (21M) – 8 books
  14. (2005) Percy Jackson & the Olympians (20M) – 5 books
  15. (1995) His Dark Materials (15M) – 3 books

Looking at copies sold Harry Potter with the 510 million books stands out quite a bit compared to the rest of them. Potter is also the first big hit in Children’s books (I’m unsure if His Dark Materials were best sellers back when they first came out. They might have been because they are awesome. But the sales numbers are a whole lot smaller than for Potter, and they’ve been in print for twenty+ years.)

Diary of a Wimpy Kid and Twilight are pretty impressive in the number of books sold especially since they’re both from the later 00s. Diary of a Wimpy kid has 12 books though, compared to Twilight’s 4  and Potter with 7 but still, well done Wimpy Kid.

The more recent series (started during the 00s) seem to hoover some around 20-60 million copies sold and 3-5 books. I think this might be because around this time the market for MG/ YA books exploded and e-book and self publishing became a thing. Ebooks are making books cost less to produce (like nothing) and it’s giving people world wide access to more titles.

It’s probably going to be hard for any book out do Harry Potter and Wimpy Kid for the next few years since it clearly takes a while to build up to such huge sales. But we might se a new “phenomenon” like the Fifty Shades of Grey which has sold 125M in 6 years or the Hunger Games more “modest” 65M in 9 years.

In the future I think there will be more books / series that end up in the lower end of this spectrum, (10-25M book sold). Mostly because with more readers than ever (because the world population is always growing) there is a constant expanding audience. But with that being said there is also the expanding pool of material and sub-genres and ability to choose what we want to read individually via the internet /ebooks (instead of  relying on what was is stocked by the local book store). These are all making it so that more variety of books are sold and hence less chance of one book becoming really big.

Number of Books

Now let’s talk number of books in the series. I added this because that’s a very interesting aspect.  All the ones on my 15 fave list have between 3 and 15 books, seeming to either come in around 3-5 books or 9-15. Harry Potter, Artemis Fowl and Dork Diaries books have the less common but not totally out there 7/8 books.

So why 3-5? Or the higher 9-15?

My hypothesis here is – the series with more books, each book is generally shorter and intended for a young audience. So the Diary of a Wimpy Kid, A Series of Unfortunate Events books and Captain Underpants should all be shorter. Let’s go check number of pages on Amazon!

Wimpy kid – 221 pages.

Unfortunate Events – 162 pages

Underpants -125 pages.

Okay so Wimpy Kid is a bit longer than I expected but the other two are about half the length of a “normal” book. Make sense, since these are for a younger audience who might prefer a shorter book, right?

There are also two fantasy book series, which each are 12 books long and each one of those 12 are a door stopper in of itself. These are long because they are about a larger cast or a larger event such as a full on war / power struggle etc and because fantasy books “are” long.

So unless you’re writing for kids or writing high fantasy, maybe the 3-5 books is the preferred series length?

Then again, the most successful book on this list have 7 books, so maybe it is the more the merrier? I guess it depends on what kind of story you want to tell.

Order of Release

Let’s re-organize our list of 15 by the date the first book in the series came out. Remember, these books were not always best sellers on the first book so you might be surprised at the age of some.

  1. (1990) The Wheel of Time (80M) – 15 books
  2. (1995) His Dark Materials (15M) – 3 books
  3. (1996) A Song of Ice and Fire (60M) – 5 books (intends to write 7)
  4. (1997) Captain Underpants (26M) – 12 books
  5. (1997) Harry Potter (510M) – 7 books
  6. (1998) The Sword of Truth (25M) – 12 books
  7. (1999) A Series of Unfortunate Events (65M) – 13 books
  8. (2001) Artemis Fowl (21M) – 8 books
  9. (2002) The Inheritance Cycle (33M) – 4 books
  10. (2005) Twilight (120M) – 4 books
  11. (2005) Percy Jackson & the Olympians (20M) – 5 books
  12. (2007) Diary of a Wimpy Kid (194M) – 12 books
  13. (2008) The Hunger Games trilogy (65M) – 3 books
  14. (2009) Dork Diaries (25M) – 9 books
  15. (2011) Divergent trilogy (35M) – 3 books

Here we can clearly see the evolution of the MG/ YA genre, starting with magic in Harry Potter followed by Artemis Fowl, Inheritance Cycle and then Twilight and Percy Jackson. Then we move into dystpoia with The Hunger Games and Divergent. In the late 00s we have, for the slightly younger audience, Wimpy Kid and Dork Diaries.

Note that all none of the books since about 2000 are adult books (this includes the mystery/romance section up top too (except 50 shades).

I repeat; no new best selling serie for adult has “started” since the early 2000 with the exception of 50 Shades (there has of course been new books in these ongoing series during this time.) This is very cool and really seems to mean the place to be (or more accurately; to be writing) is MG and YA.

Even in the fantasy books characters are often fairly young, such as Eragon who starts out at 15 (I think?) and the Stark kids in the Song of Ice and Fire are all teens and many of them have POVs (Jon, Sansa, Bran, Danny).

So characters around 11 or 16 seem to be really popular in best selling series. The 11 year olds seem to grow up about 1 year per book while the teens often stay 16-17 through out the series (this is kind of just from what I remember, pretty sure it’s mostly right though).

World / Setting / Genre

Another things I find super interesting about these fifteen books is the fact that only 2 of them are set in our “normal” world. The Dork Diaries and Diary of a Wimpy Kid, which are both humorous lighter books than the rest on the list (excluding Captain Underpants) and set primarily in a ordinary world, with character’s attending middle school. Captain Underpants also fits this starting out, even though we then, via hypnosis get a superhero, it is still primarily our world.

So out of 15 books 2 (3) are set in the real world.

Then we have 5 “kind-of” our world; Harry Potter, Twilight, Captain Underpants, Percy Jackson and Artemis Fowl are all set in the present day but with a hidden world of magic (or superheros in the Captain Underpants) but with most people being clueless about it and only the characters and readers being “in” on it (except maybe Potter, where you have this whole hidden comunity).

Then finally we have the totally different worlds from our own which the renaming 8 fit into.

Out of these 3 are dystopian – A Series of Unfortunate Events, The Hunger Games and Divergent.  These are all magic-less worlds that our world could become. I’m counting A Series of Unfortunate Events  here because it’s a odd, dark world even if it is not perhaps a straight up dystopia.

Then there are 4 series set completely in a secondary fantasy world – Wheel of Time, Sword of Truth, Song of Ice and Fire and The Inheritance Cycle.

Last, His Dark Material which straddles the line between a sort of alternate early turn of the century with magic in book 1 and then actually introduces “our” world in book 2, is a sort of mix of alternate history, fantasy and portal fantasy.

Summary: Books about other worlds/ times seem to have a distinct advantage/ interest more readers at least in the MG/ YA and fantasy section. (Most of the mystery/ romance books from the big list are more grounded in reality though).

It seems magic, alternate histories/ futures or straight up magic worlds are really interesting to people and makes for great story telling.

Plot!

So I’m betting you know the plot to most of these books are about, even if you haven’t read them. But just for fun let’s list them and add a quick one liner to each. (I’ve put them in the most sold order again.)

  1. Harry Potter – A boy wizard destined to fight the dark lord start magic school.
  2. Diary of a Wimpy Kid – The tale of a “Wimpy Kid’s” life in middle school.
  3. Twilight – Girl moves to small town where it always rains and falls in love with a vampire who struggles with wanting to drink her blood / kill her.
  4. The Wheel of Time – Fantasy epic. Lots of battles and stuff. Not really clear on this one.
  5. A Series of Unfortunate Events  – Three kids are repeatedly almost killed by their weird uncle who wants their fortune.
  6. The Hunger Games trilogy – In a depressing future USA, a girl fights in a televised death match against 23(?) other teens.
  7. A Song of Ice and Fire  – The war of the roses. With dragons. And sex.
  8. Divergent trilogy – Society tries to put girl in a box. She rebels. Then the whole state kind of rebels.
  9. The Inheritance Cycle – Boy finds a dragon egg. Egg hatches and now the evil overlord wants to kill the boy.
  10. Captain Underpants – Kids turn their principle into a superhero from their favorite cartoon.
  11. The Sword of Truth – A hot magical woman shows up and guy find out he has magic destiny/ duty to destroy an evil overlord.
  12. Dork Diaries – Girl starts a new private school. Dosen’t fit in.
  13. Artemis Fowl – Overly smart boy captures fairy to ransom her.
  14. Percy Jackson & the Olympians  – Boy finds out he’s a demigod and there is about to be a war unless someone finds Zeus’s stolen lighting bolt.
  15. His Dark Materials – A girl tries to find her kidnapped friend. Lots of really awesome and weird stuff happens while she’s doing that.

What did we learn from this? Well, it’s pretty easy to explain just what the plot for each book is (with maybe the high fantasy books being exceptions since they’re often very long and about great big wars and such.)

Most also have very clear and memorable main characters. 3 of these have the name in the title. Two have Dorky/ Wimpy as a description of the main character. The rest have titles like Hunger Games and Divergent’s that both refer to the main thing in the first book (as does The Sword of Truth), giving us a hint what the main theme is and back when the book was new, made us wonder what these “Hunger Games” might be.

Random side note

I really like the Better Novel Project and think analyzing best sellers is fascinating – if you haven’t checked that site out you totally should.

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Better Novel Project blog = awesome!

So what have we learned from all of this?

In the past two decades or so book series that have become best sellers have between 3-5 books (unless high fantasy or shorter books then 10-15 books in series). They’re set in a world with magic hidden from the “normal” people or a dystopian / alternate history.

Or if they’re fantasy novels – in a secondary world.

Main characters are often preteens or mid to late teens, even in fantasy.

Even a best selling series will probably not make it past the 50M books sold, much less the 100M, but they’re still best selling and most of us will know the title and basic premises.

Male main characters seem a bit more common in MG books and female heroines in YA. Love triangle in two of the YA books, but it’s good to note these are all sub-plots and not really the focus of the books (well maybe a bit in Twilight).

But perhaps most interesting and important is that almost all of these books have a easy to remember plot / tell me what it’s about / pitch sort of deal. Even though several take place in alternative worlds from ours, they’re easy to understand and explain to possible readers.

So what makes books best seller?

Does these statistics give us any clues? Will writing a YA book series with 4 books set in a dystopian future or fantasy world with a love triangle be guaranteed to become a best seller? Or should go for a magic school and evil overlord? Vampires? Is there some super change best selling formula?

As much as I would love to say yes, I can’t.

You can surely up your odds by writing series with some of these things. Problem is, if you write a Dystopian and try to have it published today – you’re 5-10 years late to the party. Same with the magic, vampires and such.

Because a big part of why things become best sellers are timing.

Yup.

What becomes populate often has as a lot to do with the world as with the actual book. Timing is important. And usually only one book will hit it real big, only to be followed by others in similar spirit relatively quickly (think back to the number of vampire books back around Twilight’s release, how Divergent’s success partly comes from the fame of the Hunger Games and the dozes of BDSM books that have followed Fifty Shades and done very well for themselves.)

Because best seller are timing as much as a great story and as we’re moving forward all the time a book that might have hit big in the early 00s isn’t going to today. As the world changes, society changes, there are different things that call to readers to certain books.

Can we still learn something from all these Best Selling Statistics I’ve drugged up?

If it’s all timing and luck pretty much, is it all useless?

No.

I find it amazing to be able to compile statics for these best sellers. To know that the MG/ YA genre is historically the one that has the most best sellers. That younger protagonists even in fantasy are common. That magic and alternate worlds are extremely popular. What number of books most series have.

That I can make a list that I (and anyone else that wants) can use as a jumping off point.All Best Selling YA Book Have This In Common5

Best selling book have…

Title: Contain the main event, character or other important and attention grabbing thing

Plot:  Easy and clear to explain in a sentence or two.

World: Often a hidden magical one in the present day or a non magical dystopian future.

Character: Either young (11) and growing up during the series or 15-17 years old (and stay that way. MD more often boys, YA more often girls.

Romance: Often part of the YA + fantasy stories, but not really focus. Some of the YA have love triangles.

Series length: 3-5 books for YA.

Theme: Something that resonates with the time or mood of the intended audience at the time of release.

Time to Fame: It often takes a long time to actually get on the best selling list on wiki, but often best sellers become popular within a few years of their release. TV shows and movies being made often make people remember or re-discover a book and increase interest in it (duh!).


None of these elements on their own guarantees you a best seller. Nothing can do that. Not being a brilliant writer, having a great story/ premises, or the right aged character or world to set your book, will do that.

But it will help. These stats show you what has been popular in the past; what people enjoy reading.

And while you should be write things you enjoy reading, it’s good to know what others love too.

To read those book, to analyze them and see what made them work. To think about them in the time they came out. To think about the issues of today’s world and how those might effect your future readers. Think about the fun interesting ideas explored with in them – magical schools, dangerous death matches and kinky sex – these concept existed before these books made them big. But we still think of Harry Potter, The Hunger Games and Fifty Shades of Gray as the “creators” of these things. Maybe the next big thing is already out there, a amazing topic someone has just been waiting to turn into a brilliant story?

Maybe you can be that person?

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Writing Promt 2

The First Book Comes…First!?!

I spend a serious amount of time trying to find books to read. I mean I sometimes spend more time looking for something to read than actually reading it. One of the things I hate most about lists (mostly on blogs and forums) is that people sometimes list their favorite book in a series instead of the first one – like if this for example:

My favorite fantasy books

1. Harry Potter and the Order of Phoenix

2. The Good, the Bad and the Undead

3. River Marked.

And so on.

All of these are some other number rather than the first in the series. And I so wish people would post the first in a series. At least with book series where you need to read the first few books to “get” the world. (That would make the list – 1. HP & Philosopher’s stone 2. Dead Witch Walking 3. Moon Called)

I get that some people might just love one of the books super duper much. But frankly it makes it a lot hard to figure out if you read book# 1 of the series and hated it or if you might want to read book 1 before reading  the suggested book which nr #X in the series. So when not referring to a spec topic, why not just put the first book in a series first? If you love some books of the series more you can mentioned that in your “read why” section maybe?

It might sound be weird and a little wonky of me but I want to read a book, I don’t want to start with nr. 5 in the series. I want the one first and then the rest. Especially with books that are a SERIES. Which a lot of Urban Fantasy and Fantasy books are and what I read most.

At the same time I get that if you’re searching for ‘hunky millionaire’ books, you might just want books with hunky millionaires and not all books might feature that (even in the same series.) This is more common with more stand alone romance novels with a new couple in every book. Then I think it’s totally fine.. I mean sometimes you just want to read about a hunky rich dude, right?

But you gotta admit it’s kind of weird when you got to ‘best young adult novels’ and get Catching Fire instead of the Hunger Games as number one. As Goodreads thankfully these days always have the series along with the title in a (parenthesis) this is less of a problem than it used to be back in the “good old days of yore” when you looked up lists on blogs and forums more often than not. But still for me the first book still comes, well, first.

 

Inside the head of a boy…(How to write from a guy’s POV)

Writing from a guy’s POV is something I find kind of hard. It’s interesting but it also requires some different things than writing from a girl’s POV. Since I am a girl, girly things come easier to me and I tend to prefer writing from a female character’s POV for most of the story. But sometimes you need to write from a guy’s point of view and to make things easier for all the gals trying to write like a guy – I put together a list of things I found helpful to think about when writing a male character when you’re just starting out.

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This is from reading male authors, talking to some guy friends and reading about writing guys as a girl. There are apparently a few things guys do differently than women – these are not fact or anything just some things that seem to be true and help me.

Things to think about when writing from a guy’s POV

1) Gossip is stupid. At least the way girls gossip. Boys will, of course, talk about people but often it’s more direct perhaps than how girls do it (I think we tend to be sneakier and repeat things over and over).

This, of course, depends a lot on where you set your story. In high school, everyone gossips; who is dating who, who has the coolest new haircut, who got a nose job. Also, guys find a different kind of gossip interesting. Sports, who has a ‘gay’ shirt and other topics that are key in their lives (could be an art contest or Taylor Swift concert, it just depends on your character) is of course important. This applies for all characters, we don’t gossip about things that we don’t find interesting or might somehow influence us.

2) Can only “do” one thing at once. This is something I’ve heard a lot about and I’ve noticed in my guy friends. It’s not that they can’t do more than one thing it’s that they like it. Like if there is a problem they want to fix it before doing something else and once they have a plan to do it, go for it. I feel like me and my girl friends tend to spend more time thinking of different ways to fix before actually doing it than my guy friends.

Which I think this is important when writing. As a woman and writing female characters I tend to skip around in their thoughts. So when writing guys I try to focus on one idea or thought or plan get full focus and then move on, rather than run a whole bunch of plans at once. I feel like this makes the character’s POV different from the female one. So while it might not be how all guys work, it’s a good way to separate the internal voices of your characters.

3) More visual. Guys are often about things they can see rather than things they can feel, at least at first. Also, a lot of studies show boys think about sex between two and three times more often than girls, so maybe keep that in mind (this does not mean all guys go around just thinking about sex all the time but when writing a male character adding them noticing something sexy about their love interest licking her lips – yes, I’m looking at you Mr. Gray – might be good.)  But this also applies to other aspects of your male characters, I find some male authors often repeat descriptions of things they like (which could just as well be his car or new sneakers as his love interest) so that could also be something to try.

What Do Guys Do?

1) They do things: Unlike girls who like to talk about what we’re going to do guys actually do things! 😛 At least that was how it always was in older books, “the passive woman” and “the active man”. There is however still a lot of this still around and in some instances, it might be worth being aware of. If you want to play the trope straight or try to subvert it is up to you.

A lot of the time, though, guys tend to “go for it” when they have an idea more than girls. Especially as teens, men can be a bit more rash which can be seen in the stats on how many more accidents teen boys are in compared to girls.

Not that there aren’t active and action focused characters that are girls and more thoughtful planers that are guys. That works and the other way around is cool too. This has a lot to do with a character’s personality and who the main character is. If your main character and POV is a girl, she needs to be the one who gets them out of trouble. She needs to take action on her own, she can’t be ‘saved’ by the male character/ hero/love interest at the end.

2) Don’t talk around things, this is another stereotypical thing but most of the time guys are a little blunter. If they don’t want to do something they just say “That sounds boring. I don’t want to do it.” while most girls go “yeah sure that’s a pretty nice idea but maybe we could do this other thing instead.” Your male character might be shy or timid and not want to offend the character he’s talking to but if that’s the case he’ll probably just shut up and go along with it. No matter how boring he thinks it sounds, rather than talk his way around it. This will, of course, differ depending on who your character is around, but overall, guys tend to have “learned” they don’t need to apologize as much for their opinions as girls.

3) Do care about their hair and clothes. This one might be obvious but I’ve seen some stories on Wattpad that makes me think it’s not. Even if you are a guy (or writing from the POV of one) you’re not going to be like “I picked up whatever was on the floor and didn’t brush my hair or teeth before leaving the house” unless your character is a complete slob. Your guy character might not pick up a pair of jeans and go “wow my butt would look so great in these” but they probably have favorite clothes they think make them look more muscular, thinner or taller too. Don’t go overboard but remember it’s not just girls that want to look hot!

Now, this is very general. Not all guys are this way – because we are all people before we’re men/women. I think what’s really most important to remember when writing male (or female character for men) is that all your characters are human (well unless they’re werewolves or wizard but you get my point). I really like what G.G.R. Martin said about writing women “You know, I’ve always considered women to be people.” I think that’s one of the key aspects of writing a character, be it a he or a she, is that s/he is an individual with dreams, desires and inner demons. So when you’re having trouble with writing a male character just remember, we’re more similar than we’re different; so focus on the character as an individual and you’ll do just fine!

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Writing Promt 4

ARC copies + Preorder Time!

I’ve been trying to write up this little post since I got my books a few weeks back! Well my ARC copies – Advance Reader Copies! But at first I was just so excited and then once that lessened a bit I wasn’t quite able to put the excitement down on ‘paper’, so to speak.

The book is so pretty and it’s so weird to have an actual book. It’s been so long in the making it’s almost hard to believe. After all the editing and re-writing and just general stuff that takes way longer than one would think – it’s an actual book! And this isn’t even the hard cover  which I’m thinking is going to be even more awesome!

Here are some photos of the books! Just because!Bound To You Cover

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Don’t you just love them? They’re even prettier for reals neither my camera nor my photographing skills really dosen’t do them justice!

Can’t wait for April 10th!

If you want to pre-order a copy (or two, books make great gifts) you can do that at any of these retailers!
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Game of Thrones – Why Jon Won’t Die and Other Predictions!

So I’ve recently become an obsessive Game of Thrones fan. I mean I usually marathon-ed each season after it was done airing, hating to wait between each ep, but last year I was just like ‘mmm no, I don’t have time and I just get annoyed because there is still so long until the end’ so I skipped it. So instead I watched some of season 5 and all of season 6 right before the start of season 7. And now I can’t stop obsessing over it. It’s really very annoying.

Anyway, on to my whole “Jon Snow Won’t Die” theory. Martin has said the ending will be bittersweet (or as Ramsey put it “if you thought this had a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention”). Lots of people think that means Jon will die or the Starks will die or Jon and Dany will hook up and fall in love and then one of them will die and leave the other with their magic perfect Stark/ Targaryen baby to rule the seven kingdoms with Tyrion as his hand.

Um. No. Sorry to break it to you. That’s not going to happen. Nuhu. No. Nope. Not a chance.

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Best ending ever: All the characters die along with the WW. Pod will get the Iron Throne and together with all the whores in Kings Landing repopulate the world. LOL. No. Let’s be serious.

Sure, people will die. They’ll be dropping like flies this season most likely and in season 8 even more people will bite the dust. Before the end Little Finger, Cerci, possibly Arya and most definitively Dany will be gone (along with lots of other minor characters).

But Jon Snow (Targaryen) will not die.

The reasons why: he has already died once, he asked the Red Lady not to bring him back if he died again and finally because we kind of expect it.

A) Having him die once and then die again… I’m not sure if that makes sense. Especially since he died to bring the Free Folk and NW men together. I think Jon is going to somehow broker a peace between the WW and the Seven Kingdoms in season 8, and having him die for the ‘same’ reason (ie bringing two peoples peace) is not good storytelling. I don’t think so anyway.

B) He asked the Red Woman not to bring him back if he died during the Battle of Bastards, meaning he was sort of ready to die. I mean he was in a pretty bad head space at that point but still. I think Jon has always been ready to sacrifice himself, and it’s almost something he wants. I’m not saying he’s suicidal, just that he’s ready and willing to die for the right cause/ the people he loves. So he won’t. Simple Martin/ GoT logic 😛

C) Because we’ve been told the ending is bittersweet, it’s easy to think that means Jon dying for the “cause”  remembered by all as a hero. But I for one don’t buy that. I don’t even buy the whole final battle between the “dead and living” that’s too simple, too predictable. I don’t think it will go down like that at all (more on that in the Season 8 prediction section).

The bittersweet ending will probably be Lord of the Ring-ish, with Frodo never being the same but still alive. GRR Martain has said he was inspired by this when he first started the series, but we’ll see if D&D does something else. But this show has killed off so many characters so we’ve come to expect it almost. So they won’t do that with Jon.

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Cheer up Jon! You might not know anything, but you’ll live!

So, those are my reason to why I think Jon will live. I also think, that in a twist that gives him both what he wants and not, I think he’ll become Lord of Winterfell and possibly end up marrying his half-sister/ cousin Sansa. Even if that’s a bit icky.

Jon ending up with Sansa makes a weird sort of sense, even more so in the books. Sure there is the incest-factor or the “we were siblings growing up and are now cousins.” But come on. This is Westeros. Marrying your cousin was totally normal, DanyxJon is happening in season 7 (and nephew/ aunt is about the same as cousin/cousin). Sansa and Jon never spent much time together as kids when they meet at Castle Black they’re pretty much strangers (especially since they hadn’t seen each other in like 5 years).

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Best reunion ever!

So other than the related bit it makes sense. Sansa has been engaged and married to a bunch of total assholes (mostly Joffery and Ramsey, but the Tyrell guy (gay) and Tyrion (a middle-aged Lannister dwarf) weren’t exactly awesome matches either). There is also the Egg and Dunk Ashford tournament theory with the five suitors matching Sansas “suitors” and the last one is a Targaryen…and right now in the show the only male Targaryen around is Jon.

Anyway Sansa has had it pretty rough since day one (Lady, her direwolf was put to death, she was engaged to Joffery the cunt, had to watch her father be beheaded, was tormented at court, married off to Tyrion, had to escape after Joffrey’s death and then she ended up married to Ramsey an even bigger cunt. All while LF has been creeping around her being, well, creepy) and her story focus have always been who she should marry. Since day 1 she’s wanted to marry a prince and have babies. So either she’ll die or marry someone “…brave, gentle and strong…(That boy (Joffery) is no Prince Aemon, you must believe me.”) (book) like her father promised. Jon is a brave, gentle and strong + a Targaryen prince…or well king…both King in the North and the heir to the Iron Throne. He’s exactly what she wants…except she grew up being an ass to him, thinking of him as a bastard (mostly due to her mother hating him) so getting him would fulfill her dreams but in a totally weird way. Very Martin.

Same with Jon. He clearly wants to be a Stark, in the books he dreams of a family of his own, of being Lord of Winterfell and I think that kind of comes through a bit in the show too. He wants to not be a bastard and he wants to marry and have a family. He just gave that up to join the NW because he thought he never could have it. He always put everyone else first, always thinking he’s not really worthy because he is a Bastard. In the show Sansa has already made him feel more like a Stark than anyone (giving him a cloak like their fathers, saying he is a Stark to her etc) And we know he likes red-heads 😛

Them shacking up would make sense politically too, if it became known Jon was a Targaryen. Marrying the Lady of Winterfell would show he is still committed to the north. It might be something like that at first, just like with Cat and Ned, even though there are  some kind of interesting vibes between Jon and Sansa already (“Where will you go?” “Where will we go.” // The cloak / dress scene // Fight + the candle lights + “I won’t ever let him touch you again” // beating the crap out of Ramsey //bedroom conversation + forehead kiss// sitting together at the head of the table when Jon was named king // arguing like an old married couple // the whole “touch my sister and I will kill you myself” and slamming LF against the wall just like Ned back in season 1 for Cat. Of course, all those could just be explained as brotherly love and Jon wanting to protect the only family he has left).

I’m not sure if I ship them, but they do make sense in a GoT type of way, if they do decide to marry people off in the end. The only other possible match I see for Sansa is Gendry, if he’s legitimized, and to make the whole thing come full circle (with Ned and Rob B “joining” their house together like they wanted back in season 1). I kind of like that idea, because it would add some to the Sansa/Genry/Arya conflict.

But other than Gendry, Jon is the only guy left who makes sense for Sansa. But the show probably won’t go with Jonsa way because of possible backlash with the sibling thing and they’re doing the Jon/Dany thing. But it is still an interesting match. Sophie and Kit have good chemistry even if there is still a bit of incest ick. There are some people shipping it (here) but I expect that with the recent first meet of Dany and Jon there will be plenty of folks shipping the two Targaryens.

For me Dany and Jon… I just don’t see that. I mean, sure they’ll probably rip each other’s clothes off and fuck because…fanservice? but long term Dany and Jon wouldn’t work. She’d get bored, he’d feel weird about her sometimes “let’s kill/burn some people” vibes and he doesn’t want to be king and all she wants is be Queen and sit on the world’s most uncomfortable chair. And they’re both pretty suck-y leaders so them ruling Westeros together would blow the whole world up or something. But mostly because their stories don’t match.

Sure, they both had their first love die. Kind of because of them. And they’ve both risen to power. They have the whole fire and ice thing (even if Jon is both Ice and Fire, I think it’s fair to say Jon has more of a connection to ice at this point and Dany to fire). But Jon has struggled, building himself up from nothing and never asking for power. He’s looking out for everyone and it got him KILLED. Dany has always been about herself. She takes and been given things because of her name, her dragons and her beauty, not because she is a leader or is working for the good of everyone. People die FOR her, she doesn’t die for THEM.

I mean Dany is hot and seem awesome. Girl power right? But looking closer it’s pretty clear she’s not a very good ruler. She never had any training in how to rule and is very young (but she and Jon are almost the exact same age, both born at the end of the war. Not that Jon is super leader either…but better than her.) She’s selfish, untrustworthy and shortsighted not to mention violent.

She threatened burnt down a city if she wasn’t let in, she broke her promise to trade Drogon for the slave army, crucified all the slavers, put to death a slave that killed a slaver in custody, she wants to “break the wheel” and bring about her new world (which sounds nice and all because Westeros is kind of crappy, but still Adolf Hitler said something pretty danged similar and we all know how that turned out).

She let her dragons burn and eat a man because he was (possibly) in league with her enemies with no trial and killed all the Dothraki Khals and gave a rousing speech about killing people and tearing down the stone houses in Westeros. I’m not saying she has done something worse than any other character, but if she wasn’t a beautiful girl would we love her so much? I mean, what if she was a middle-aged man claiming she had the right to rule the world and stuff? Would she still be as sympathetic? Maybe. Maybe not.

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I mean, she’s a cool character and would/will be an awesome “villain” (GoT doesn’t really have straight up villains but you know what I mean). She started off like a pretty innocent character, we felt sympathy for her as she was “sold” and raped, when she lost her baby and Khal Drogo died. Then things start to get a little iffy. Season 2&3 she was mostly confused, trying to survive in any way she could while slowly getting some power. She isn’t evil-evil like Joffery or Ramsey or anything. She has good intentions. She just sucks at implementing them and actually ruling. And that is possibly more dangerous.

She thinks she’s right.

She (and lots of other people) thinks she deserves to rule/ sit on the Iron Throne and that her way is THE way. And she has dragons, which means once she gets tired of the whole taking the Seven Kingdoms without too much bloodshed, she can always just get on a dragon and be Queen of the Ashes. I mean seriously, her family motto is “Blood and Fire”. That’s not very encouraging but at the same time, Dany gets things done. Sometimes that is really freaking useful but still. Martin is not a fan of war and Dany “is a conqueror”, just like Daario (and Tyrion?) said back in season 5/6.

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Warrior Queen if I ever saw one…

So I don’t see a HEA for Dany and I think Jon will get some sort of OK ending so they can’t match them up. Jon’s ending won’t be ideal but I do think he will be Lord of Winterfell, he will know he’s not a Bastard but a prince/ king. But he will turn the Iron Throne down (if there is one at the end of the series), because all he ever wanted was to be part of a happy normal family. To not be a bastard, to be part of something (like the brotherhood that makes up the NW, which failed big time with them killing him and all).

Or he’ll just live while all other Starks die, Winterfell and Kings Landing might be destroyed and he’ll decide to go traveling off to some distant land (Frodo style). Or he’ll be the new Night King or something like that. Maybe that’s what the “prince that was promised” means, maybe they need a new king every few thousand years. Okay, I don’t really believe that but anything is possible in GoT.

Anyway, that’s my cup of tea. Maybe I’m just desperate for Jon not to die because he’s my favorite character but I think the signs do point to him being alive at the end of season 8.

Now on to some other Game of Thrones stuff. Last year apparently some scripts for season 7 were leaked. Since I’ve been obsessing about the show and needing to know what was going to happen…well I kind of couldn’t help myself.

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LEAKED PLOTS FOR SEASON 7 AHEAD!! BE AWARE

I know. I know. Part of the fun is not knowing. But It’s just so hard to wait. So I checked out the leaked scrips/ summaries for season 7. I didn’t really mean to read them all, just the 07×4 one. I only wanted to know when Jon would be reunited with Sansa, Arya and Bran and learn he’s actually a Targaryen. But once I got started I couldn’t stop.

Basically it seems like the season will go something like (from 7×04); Dany getting her burning people freak on (Feild of Fire), Jon deciding he needs to capture a wight and goes north to do so, LF playing mind games with Arya and Sansa but them killing him by the end of the season. While beyond the wall Jon will call upon Dany to come help him and his gang, she will bring her dragons, one of them will die and be turned into an ice dragon. She will be pissed, promise to help Jon stop the WW, he will offer to bend the knee if she promises that and they’ll sleep together. Bran and Sam will find proof that Jon is actually a Targaryen (legitimate) and the heir to the iron throne. Cerci will become pregnant but lose the baby. Sansa and Brienne will leave for Kings Landing to see the wight which the others are bringing to the capitol by boat. The wall will fall and the WW will come streaming into Westeros.

Hew.

Lots of stuff going down, not sure if it’s all going to come true but the first few eps have apparently been pretty accurate. I hope some of it is wrong but I’m going to assume it’s basically right and make some guesses for season 8 based on that.

PREDICTIONS FOR SEASON 8 FACTORING IN THE LEAKED PLOTS

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If all of the leaked stuff turns out to be true, I figure season 8 will open with the north gang + Dany somehow either getting Cerci to work with them or her going Mad Queen and blowing shit up after losing her baby (and possibly Jamie killing her).

Or Dany will just burn it all herself… which might make Jon a tad bit less eager to keep on banging her and might make him change his mind about bending the knee. At this point Arya will arrive, possibly with the documents proving Jon is the legitimate heir to the Iron Throne. This will not make Dany happy, she will have spent 6.5 seasons declaring herself the one and only rightful queen.

But I imagine they wouldn’t tell her having realized she really-really wants to be queen and Jon has no real interest in the throne. But Jon would probably stop having sex with her which would confuse and piss the heck out of her (since guys always fall all over themselves to be with her). Or maybe that’s just wishful thinking on my part, I mean the incest thing isn’t the same in Westeros as it is for us. Sinc Jon would keep his legacy a secret, the whole of the seven kingdoms would have to accept Dany as their queen and turn their armies north. Plus the gang have brought a wight so people will hopefully be taking the WW threat seriously. Even if they didn’t get an army together Jon will going back north once he learned that the Wall had fallen to try to protect his home and stop the army of the dead. (Arya might stay to try to strike Cerci off her list.)

Back home at Winterfell (Sansa still in charge), Bran manages to communicate with the WW, maybe sending himself back in time and seeing/creating the original peace treaty and becoming Bran the builder?  The wall has fallen and the WW are moving closer to them every day. Jon returns, the deal between the WW and the humans are possibly brokered by him and Bran, resulting in the ‘final battle’ not having to happen. (Something like the WW promise not to come south of the wall and the humans must remain on their side and probably some kind of yearly sacrifice like Kraster(? the yucky guy with his daughter-wives or the dragons being killed or sent away).

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BUT Dany would refuse this peace treaty.

She does not make peace, she conquers and destroys the way of the peoples she takes over completely. She did it in the slave cities (sure stopping slavery is a noble goal, but it was the way of that city for centuries! Some sort of slow political reform would have been much better and probably caused a whole lot less death and social/ cultural issues) and in a sense with the Dothraki, her trying to change them (stop them from raping and pillaging) was what lead to the death of her husband and child back in season 1. Plus, with the WW killing one of her dragons, one of her children, she would want them ALL dead. Burn them all style. (In that way she and Cerci are quite similar.)

Jon cares more about the people, as we have seen time and time again, with him bringing the Free Folk through the Wall, wanting to save everyone and is big into self-sacrificing, like when he offered to fight Rasmey rather than have thousands of men fight their battles for them. Generally, he isn’t into vengeance (possibly with the exception of Ramsey who ‘stole’ his childhood home, beat and raped his sister/cousin and killed his little cousin/brother right in front of him #shouldazigzagged). That kind of pissed him off. But even there he stopped himself from killing Ramsey.

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This!

So Jon would rally the north and possibly reveal his Targaryen heritage as the true heir, to try to get Dany’s followers on his side (or not, he might be able to claim the Stark name via Lyanna too). He might marry Sansa here to secure the north. Or not, the north might follow him despite learning he’s actually Targaryen (if Lyanna Mormont has anything to say about it they will).  Or Jon could make Gendry a Baratheon if Sansa would agree to marry him and they could claim the Iron Throne that way (but if Dany took the throne back Robber’s claim might be totally nullified, then again Cerci has no true claim to the throne either. Not sure how it all would work.)

The Night King would hand over to the ice dragon to Jon / or ride it himself into battle against Dany’s forces and this might turn out to be the final battle.

Jon (Jaeharys) Targaryen vs. Daenerys Targaryen.

Jon will have the alliance with the WW, which will guarantee that the world lives on once Dany agrees to leave Westeros with her dragons – and when she won’t even to save everyone – when her army / her dragons have been defeated. Dany will have a huge army and dragons and the belief that the WW are totally evil, Jon has betrayed her and only by killing them all (and Jon) will she and her dragon babies be safe, even if losing means absolutely everyone in the world dying.

Even if the reason for the war is something else, or the battle with the WW ends and it becomes known Jon has a claim to the throne (and maybe wins the Battle for the Dawn making people go all “we want Jon to be our king, go back to Meereen Dany”). Whatever it is I really think it will be between Jon and Dany. It’s simply the thing that will have the most impact on us all. This will pit everyone against each other.

Dany will be totally upset since she might have fallen for Jon and can’t understand his desire for making peace with monsters (ironic since her dragons are pretty monstrous) and will feel he has betrayed her, Brienne and Jamie (unless he kills Cerci and joins Jon, which seems unlikely) will be on opposite sides, the Mountain and the Hound (unless this happens earlier) will fight it out, Bron and Tyrion (possibly Jamie / Tyrion if Tyrion changes side to Jon) and probably more I can’t think of. Over all, this Dany vs Jon scenario, (not everyone teaming up to fight the WW) would create more emotional stakes and truly make this war a “A villain is a hero of the other side” kind of conflict.

In the end I think the dragons will all be killed (Bran might Warg one, which would be cool, or not since he’s beeing all ‘I’m the three eyed raven’ wacky). Dany will also die, probably by ser friend zone or Jon’s hand or the Ice Dragon. Magic might somehow be destroyed again, just like it was 8,000 years ago when the WW disappeared. Kings Landing is destroyed. Westeros is split into seven different self governing kingdoms, probably with Jon being King in the North, ruling from Winterfell. Or Kings Landing stands and another war about who will be king (once Jon decides he doesn’t want the Iron Throne) will start. The Game of Thrones will have no ending, showing the way that power struggles are eternal and no one ever wins…

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Final Fate Character Predictions 

STARK

Sansa – Alive, living at Winterfell / Queen in the North. Possibly married to someone because else there will be no more Starks unless she has a kid.

Arya – will be dead at the end of the series, possibly making heroic sacrifice. Or she’ll dying because she can’t let go of her kill list/ revenge. She’s simply to damaged to survive and I think despite her claiming it, she can never really be Arya Stark of Winterfell again. If she could warg, I would say living her life in Nymeria would be her best bet, which I think will be how the book ends.

Brandon – alive, but still the Three Eyed Raven and being all freaky.

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Cerci – dead, there really is no way she lives through this after everything she’s done.

Jamie – too soon to tell. possibly alive and going off to start a new life ‘Frodo’ style. Possibly dying while / soon after killing Cerci.

Tyrion – Alive. Just because D&D loves him and so do most fans.

TARGARYEN

Jon – alive. Possibly at Winterfell/ King in the North or doing a ‘Frodo’ like Jamie.

Dany – dead.

OTHERS

Little Finger – dead. Hopefully Sansa kills him but spoilers claim Arya. We’ll see…

Ghost – I really hope he lives through it all!

Gendry – could go either way, if he survives season 7, I think he might make it out alive. I think he’ll have a reunion with Arya but be shocked by how different she is.

Yara & Euron –  her capture by Euron will end with one of them dead and the boss of the Iron Islands. I’m hoping for Yara but I’m not sure. Could go either way in GoT.

Theon – I think he might mount rescue giving Yara the chance to kill Euron, but end up dying in the attempt but redeeming himself to his sis.

Sam, Gilly, Little Sam – I think the show will make Sam be the one who has been writing “A Song of Ice and Fire” all along. Sam and his little family will be the only ones to really live happily ever after because I think the tone of how he told it would be different if either Gilly or Little Sam was dead. Even if they don’t end up making Sam some sort of weird ‘narrator’ I really hope the Sam clan will get a good ending.

Ser Davos – I really hope he lives! He’s pretty good at staying alive by not being a hero. So either he’ll keep on doing that or he’ll be a hero one time a be dead forever…

Brienne – I think she might die but I really hope she gets to either hook up with Jamie or Tormund first. I mean she seriously deserve some happiness, but with GoT that’s unlikely. I did hear a interesting theory where she is the younger and more beautiful (she has a lot of inner beauty) prophesied Queen that will finally topple Cerci. It would love that but I don’t believe it will happen.

Tormund – if he lives through the WW capture mission he might be okay… which I really hope for because I want more Brienne/ Tormund.

Ser Friend Zoned – will die. Either on the mission to capture the WW or in some sort of final battle. I really hope Dany is there when he does die and actually one time tells him she actually loves him (in whatever way, daughterly, friendly or in love-love. I mean seriously, their send offs / reunions are the only times Dany seem to have emotions these days…)

 

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